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Sage Voices: Exploring the Path to Living Magically with Andrea Isaacs | Interview Series | Magical Michelle Orwick

• Magical Michelle Orwick and Andrea Isaacs • Season 3 • Episode 4

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Join us as Andrea Isaacs takes us on a magical journey of self-discovery through 'Soaring in 24,' her unique philosophy that harnesses the wisdom of the Enneagram to rewire our beliefs and grow emotional muscle. Her own evolution from a bashful child to a professional dancer and then to a luminary thought leader is not just inspiring, it's the blueprint for anyone ready to embrace their inner magic and connect authentically with themselves and others.

Have you ever felt the surge of power that comes from a profound chant resonating in your chest? We explore this vibrational alchemy, the kind that can anchor your deepest affirmations and set them humming through the universe. I might not be your go-to rap artist, but I'll show you how mantras can be a playful yet profoundly grounding force. We'll also navigate the delicate dance of emotional openness, learning when to 'zip up' and protect our peace, and when it's time to 'zip down' and share our inner gifts. Embrace the Law of Reciprocity with us and witness the magic that happens when we give ourselves the freedom to live generously, in tune with our truest selves.

Are you ready to dive deeper into the wisdom and teachings of Andrea Isaacs? Explore further here: https://andrea-isaacs.com/eqtoolkit

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Michelle
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Magical Michelle Orwick:

Welcome to Living Magically. I'm Michelle, your co-host, and today I am bringing in one of my absolute favorite new people that I've met in the last month, and her name is Andrea Isaacs, and she is an emotional mastery mentor and I thought it would be really important to you to meet her, because she is one of those people that absolutely inspires me to live more magically.

Andrea Isaacs:

Oh, I'm so glad that it did that for you, yay.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

Your speech at the Soulful Leadership Retreat literally had me on the edge of my seat, and I love how you were bringing somatic, physical embodiment to the work that you do. So I'd love to have you tell me just a little bit about yourself, and then we'll get into a couple other questions.

Andrea Isaacs:

Well, thank you for your comment about my talk which, by the way, was called Soar in 24. And actually soaring is a theme that's been on my mind since well, for months preparing for the talk, giving the talk, and ever since it. And one of the things that I've recognized is that as a child I had a recurring dream, which was flying. I would fly and then I would often fall out of my bed because, I don't know, maybe I woke up and I didn't believe. I don't know what happened to that. I would fall out of my bed and the joy of flying. Just think about that for a moment, what it might feel like if we could fly.

Andrea Isaacs:

And I know, at my talk I had everybody stretch your wingspan and just feel the updraft of the wind and being able to ride the updraft, and I pointed out that the albatross can fly 3000 miles without flapping. So anyway, the theme of soaring has been with me and I believe in my bones that we all deserve to soar in our lives and for me that's living magically. Soaring in your life is when you're connected to your life purpose, it's when you know what you want, you've got your dreams, you know you deserve your dreams and you're going for them and you achieve them and you're living them, because when you're living them, you're soaring, and that really is living magically.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

I would agree 100%. And I know, how did you evolve into living magically for yourself? Well, it wasn't always like that.

Andrea Isaacs:

I spent decades of my life being painfully shy, afraid to be myself, feeling that I was just not worthy, and getting some early childhood messages that you know you're stupid, wrong, you don't belong and it just wasn't safe to be me. Some of my favorite things yeah, it's a common thing that people don't feel worthy and I've seen that over and over again. Some of my most favorite things to do as a kid were things that got me outside of being me. Like I loved horses. Through my whole life I've loved horses. I remember pretending I was the horse and boy I had a great neigh and I could rear up on my hind legs and rip out a neigh and that later, as an adult, I'd be on my bike, I'd pass horses and I would neigh to them and they would neigh back to me. So these are elements when I would get outside myself. But when I was with people having to be me, I was just so afraid to be seen. So it was no surprise really that my first professional career was kind of nonverbal.

Andrea Isaacs:

I was a professional dancer and though of course I had to speak to talk to my dancers when I was on stage, for the most part I didn't have to use words.

Andrea Isaacs:

It was movement that captured most often, that captured an emotion, that was a human experience, and so I learned decades ago how to have my dancers embody the emotion I wanted them to communicate on stage. So it was authentic and powerful. And then, fast forward many years. I learned the Enneagram system, which is about personalities and different emotions, different emotional gifts and challenges, and I knew you could explore this beautiful body of work that was presented in a very intellectual way. I knew you could learn it kinesthetically, and so it just seemed it should exist and it didn't. So I created a way to teach and to learn in a body's experience, and because when we experience something, it's bone deep learning that lasts. But what happened next really surprised me, because that's when I started to change. I started to create the neural pathway for confidence, for believing in myself, for knowing that I do matter, and that's when the magic started to enter my life.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

I love that and so I'm guessing. Actually, I'm not guessing. I know that you have a way that you help other people get that embodiment. How do you help your clients get more magical, live more magically?

Andrea Isaacs:

Well, I have an assessment that's based on the Enneagram and it gives me 18 scores that show how you've shown up in different emotional realms in your past and present, and it can be a guide to the future you want to create, and I've learned so much by looking at the blueprint. The blueprint is the result of your quiz. By looking at the blueprint, I've noticed it's not just about hyping you, which the Enneagram is a typology system, but that's a very limiting way to look at it, in my opinion. I noticed that if someone didn't have certain scores, there were reasons. That usually went to early life experiences, when you received messages that were not empowering, something like you know you don't belong, you're not worthy, I don't have time for what you want, what you need doesn't matter, you don't matter, or something like that.

Andrea Isaacs:

And any of those early life imprints are so powerful because they land on a clean slate and they get repeated again and again and again. And, as I know, you know, those repeated patterns get really strong, just like going to a gym and lifting weights. When you go back and you do your reps, your muscles get bigger and stronger and then you can lift really heavy things quite easily. You do your reps, your muscles get bigger and stronger and then you can lift really heavy things quite easily. And those neural pathways that were trained early on have gotten so strong that all the affirmations in the world may not make a change, because these old neural pathways, those are wounds that take up room and there's no room for this new neural pathway. So I created, I created my own way and then I've also learned other ways of healing those old wounds. In my world I call it somatic focusing. It's using the body's wisdom to not just to change the neural pathway but to heal it.

Andrea Isaacs:

So I have a way of going into what the old wound was. So you embody just enough of it to inform an antidote, just like a flu vaccine has flu virus in it, and then you don't get that strain of the flu, but you need to have the correct strain in the vaccine. Don't get that strain of the flu, but you need to have the correct strain in the vaccine. So your unique wounds have to be informed in terms of the right antidote. So we do the healing first. We do the healing and then, as you, as I know, you know then when the wounds take a brew and then there's space, and I love to ask my clients this question now that there's space, what's in its place? And often it's something like I'm free to be me, I'm safe to be me, I'm free to be all that I am, or something like that, and it comes from their soul's desire of what they truly need and want to hear.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

Safety is such a big part of it. Right To gain the freedom we are all desiring. We all want freedom, right, but our big, beautiful brain tells us it's not safe. So I'd love that you address that safety, because it is so potent and powerful. I'm guessing there's a way that anybody watching this could do that assessment.

Andrea Isaacs:

Absolutely. The assessment is available as the first tool in your emotional mastery toolkit, and the shortcut way of getting there is EQQuizcom. There's a double Q in the middle E-Q-Q-U-I-Zcom, and what you get in your toolkit is the quiz where you reflect on these 18 different areas of emotion. You get your emotional mastery blueprint, which illustrates your results. You get the interpretation guide, which gives you an understanding of what your scores mean. There's a short four minute video clip on what is emotional mastery, and then you get the whammies webinar.

Andrea Isaacs:

The whammies webinar describes the challenges that that can happen that get in the way of knowing your life purpose and living your life purpose. And also I have available for a limited time, an opportunity to have a call from me at a special price. When you and I talk, well, you too, we can have that conversation. But when we talk about your unique blueprint and it is unique because, as you know, we all like snowflakes, we are all unique when we talk about your unique blueprint, you get insight about how and why you are, the challenges and the specific qualities that point to your life purpose. There's so much insight people get about that conversation. It makes the blueprint come to life and then you have a vision for what can be next, because, as you know, if we don't know we deserve our dream or have that vision, it's not going to happen.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

So it puts you on a path towards the life that you really want and deserve. Thank you so much. That seems like a lot, so I encourage everybody. One of the things we've really talked about at this Soulful Leadership Retreat was giving from generosity, and that seems really generous, so thank you for sharing that with our group. You're so welcome. I know you had some things you wanted to. There was something you wanted to teach us.

Andrea Isaacs:

Well, people, my students, often ask well, how do I practice these mantras? We go around the Enneagram, which is reflected in your quiz and in your blueprint, and in my program you get lots of mantras, which are words or phrases, and mudras, which are body positions. Traditionally they're prayer or meditation positions. I take a lot of creative license with both of those with the mantras and the mudras, and so we have just so many mantras and mudras for raising the gifts and lowering the challenges of all of these different personality types. And one day one of the students asked well, how do we practice these? And there's so many ways I could answer that in so many areas, but the way that I have the most fun doing it is because I bike every day.

Andrea Isaacs:

As soon as I get on my bike, with the first pedal stroke, I start to chant. Sometimes it's my own mantra, often it is. Sometimes I have a new mantra with a new day because I need to feel and be in a different place than I was when I woke up or than I ever felt before, and sometimes it's a mantra that came from a coaching call. Either way, yeah, because you know what these wounds and pains are. Archetypal yeah, we talked about. You talked about the theme of unworthiness. How common it is, and I hate to say this in a certain way, but it's true. When I talk my client through a really deep and beautiful process and they come out the other side, I want to go, me too, and so I take it on, and we can all do all of these mantras.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

So anyway-, I I always say give a healing, get a healing give a healing, get a healing. So there's always some like unique piece for me in every conversation that I have where, even if I've already worked on it, I get to upgrade it because, I'm anchoring the vibration of the healed in so what I?

Andrea Isaacs:

the way I answered this person's question is, during that call it was a group coaching call A lot of mantras came up from different people in the call, so I took some of the mantras that were just front of mind and I started chanting them, like I do when I'm on my bike, and they started, they were like leaning in and they were laughing. And then they said you're rapping, I'm like, I'm a rapper, I'm like. So why? How can I be a rapper? I don't know how to rap, but it was funny. And but the point of chanting, of rapping or chanting, whatever you want to call it is, when you do it, your body creates a resonance, it starts to carry the meaning of the words and, as you know, that vibration is what we extend into the world. And then we start to attract exactly that and that which we are chanting then becomes real. You know, as you know, a lot, so much about anchoring the vibration into the body semantically.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

I love that.

Andrea Isaacs:

Yeah. So we anchor it twice. We anchor it in the brain with the mantra, with the words, we anchor it in the body with the resonance, with the energy of it, and together those two anchors are so immediate and powerful to affect the change that you want. So I thought I'd do a little demo. I love that.

Andrea Isaacs:

Okay, so I have to have a disclaimer, because I've been accused of being a monotone.

Andrea Isaacs:

I can't sing, I don't sing in front of people, and it's not that I'm going to sing, and also I would dispute the fact that I'm a monotone. I would say I might be a tritone, and so I'm just going to assume that it's safe for me to do this in this container and I'm going to do this for you all. So this is useful for you to join me, if you can. I mean, you don't have to do it out loud right now, but for those of you who are listening and aren't being heard, I would invite you to join me, because these might be useful for all of us. I use repetition on purpose, and so you'll hear me repeat things, and sometimes when I do that, I start to want to change the words and I let the words evolve as they come out and it becomes playful, and then what I've noticed too is, in the repetition, I get closer and closer to what it is I really want or need, and so it's something that evolves.

Andrea Isaacs:

Ok, here we go, okay after like feel my body, just get in your body. Feel your sitting bones, your body, feel your feet on the floor, feel the length of your spine. Just be present physically. It's safe to be me. I'm free to be me. Oh, I'm going to interrupt myself and tell you one more thing. As I say these words and you just did it with me, michelle beautiful as I say these words, feel the meaning of the words in me, michelle Beautiful. As I say these words, feel the meaning of the words in your body. You could do what I'm doing. If you do something different, that's totally fine, but the idea of the power of this happens when you feel the meaning of the words in your body.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

And for those of you who are listening, just think of it like an exotic dance where you're just moving your body more aesthetically, more intuitively beautiful.

Andrea Isaacs:

Here we go, big breath in. I'm safe to be me. I'm free to be me. I'm safe to be me. I'm free to be me. I'm free to be me. I'm free to be me. I'm free to be free to be. I'm free to be me. It's safe to be all that I am. It's safe to be all that I am. It's safe to be all that I am, and I stand in my power. I stand in my power. I stand in my power and let the world know I'm here. I stand in my power and let the world know I'm here. I stand in my power and let the world know I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. And enough of being shy, I'm here. I'm done with being shy. I'm here. I let the world know I'm here. I stand in my power and I'm here. I stand in my power and I'm here because I'm safe to be me. I'm free to be me. I'm here. I stand, my power in my here because I'm safe to be me. I'm free to be me. I'm free to be.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

That's an example. What a beautiful statement because we could all be safe to be ourself and to be me and own it in our power, and I love feeling that in my body. That was very powerful.

Andrea Isaacs:

And if I were to say there was, if there were one theme that I've seen most often, it is often that people don't feel safe to be all that they are and I want you all anyone who's hearing this to know that you know sometimes we're not safe and trust yourself to know when it is safe, because it's smart, it's wise to know that you're not always safe and to have your guard up, and we need to know how to put our guard up and we need to know how to drop it. And so if you could just imagine for a moment right now, just like a zipper, zip up your guard, like, yeah, I felt that in you, yeah, because sometimes we need that right, and let's just practice dropping it, zip it down. Yeah, your heart can be seen, your heart can receive, your heart can give and receive. There's this law of reciprocity that comes up.

Andrea Isaacs:

If we walk around zipped up all the time, we can't be in the law of reciprocity that comes up. If we walk around zipped up all the time, we can't be in the law of reciprocity. We can't receive, we can't fully give, we can't give our gift to the world. So I like to practice things. I like to practice zipping up and zipping down, because of the value of knowing when it's safe and when it's not safe. And when you recognize it's safe, drop the guard and remind yourself I'm free to be me. I'm safe to be me.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

I'm here Now. That is a very living, magically philosophy and I'm really really grateful for you and I know you're doing important work in the world and I look forward to seeing more of what you're bringing out, Because I know you have a lot, a lot of these amazing gifts and that you're out there sharing them, and thank you so much for coming in and talking about some of the magic that you do. I look forward to seeing more of it.

Andrea Isaacs:

Oh, thanks so much, Rochelle.

Magical Michelle Orwick:

I know that the embodiment of the power and the safety and the freedom is something we all aspire to, and with that, I will see you very soon. I'll see all of you very soon and don't forget to live magically.